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Trying to make sense of the “open competition”

CFIAvike
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I’m gonna say it. I think the QB competition was absolutely nothing but theatre. I think It was all a “show” in KOC’s attempt to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

There’s no mystery at this point behind the fact KOC wanted Darnold last year to give JJ another year to develop. I still don’t think KOC believes JJ is ready and in fact was probably set back due to last year.

Enter Kyler Murray. He was the best option in a sea of very mediocre options. He was signed without question to be the starter. But that leaves the question “How do they bench JJ without destroying his confidence in their faith in him?….QB competition”.

I truly believe they think or at least hope that by posing a “competition” that JJ “narrowly missed” that they can bench him into another year of development without causing any damage to the QB/Coach QB/team relationship.

The problem is, JJ doesn’t appear to be a dumb guy. And if I’ve figured this out, he definitely has too. I think he’s going to say all the right things and be a good soldier, but this is the beginning of the end for him in Minnesota. Even if he does become a successful starter here within his rookie contract, I can almost guarantee he won’t ever re-sign. He will give to this franchise what they’ve given to him…zero grace.

If I can see what that sham of a competition it was…and YOU can see it….JJ lived it and he knows too.

Beginning of the end. And for KOC’s job, Kyler better be the All-Pro he’s banking on

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#1 · Aug 12, 11:32 PM
MA
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With his ability and experience Murray should have dispatched JJ by Day 3?. That didn't happen.

JJ couldn't beat out Murray.

KO's point to this dealio was for them to see how good they are, based on their own play. Neither looked the part and that's helluva motivator.

Vikings and KO win because he'll get the best out of both of them.

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#2 · Aug 13, 3:19 AM CT
MaroonBells
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JJ was given a shot and he lost. A still unproven 23 yo who was objectively awful last year lost to a former OROY, 2X Pro Bowl, 8 yr vet. Shocking. Stop blaming the refs.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." —George Orwell

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#3 · Aug 13, 6:46 AM CT
StickierBuns
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We all need to get this out of our system and move on and move forward. I know I personally misjudged JJ McCarthy as an NFL prospect…. it is what it is. The anticipation for game one in Minnesota against Green Bay is going to be off the chart for Vikings fans. Expectations and hype will continue to grow until that point, guaranteed by not only the media but fans as well.

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#4 · Aug 13, 7:37 AM CT
purplefaithful
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JJ is a big boy (and a dad!) he'll be fine.

Not happy JJM did not take a bigger step forward this year. Thats on him btw.

But I'm moving on and hoping for some fun this season. Also hoping to see 9 again next season - and an improved QB.

Last year sucked balls and I want no repeat of that.

edited Aug 13, 2026 10:33 AM CT

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#5 · Aug 13, 10:28 AM CT
StickierBuns
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Perspective.

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#6 · Aug 13, 10:34 AM CT
JR44
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I am sure everyone expected Murray to look better and win out, however I also do not believe it was some kind of game or for show. If JJM looked incredibly improved and Murray had been terrible, I am pretty sure JJM would be the starter.

NFL is big time game and a business, these guys did not get to a NFL camp without having the mental fortitude to handle competition, rejection and adversity. It is part of the game. JJM will be fine, he knows he is likely to get an opportunity to play this year and is focused on being ready for it.

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#7 · Aug 13, 10:49 AM CT
Zanary
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It's hard for anyone not in the coaches' room to know how real the competition was, as the variables (what focuses for which QB, time with starters, what Flo was bringing, etc) are basically speculation for us fans. We can't know.

That said, the other reality is that K1 rarely finishes a season and JJM has his own infamous injury history to get behind him. The odds are almost guaranteed that both will be starting this season.

Getting close to Vikings Football time...!!!

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#8 · Aug 13, 10:58 AM CT
CFIAvike
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StickierBuns wrote:

We all need to get this out of our system and move on and move forward. I know I personally misjudged JJ McCarthy as an NFL prospect…. it is what it is. The anticipation for game one in Minnesota against Green Bay is going to be off the chart for Vikings fans. Expectations and hype will continue to grow until that point, guaranteed by not only the media but fans as well.

For me there’s nothing to move on from. I feel like this organization has made every wrong decision possible since Cousins left and signing Kyler is just another rung on the ladder.

I feel like all this recent hype is going to come to an abrupt halt week 1 at US Bank. My expectations and anticipation are about as low as possible.

Hopefully I’m wrong

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#9 · Aug 13, 9:56 PM CT
StickierBuns
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CFIAvike wrote:

For me there’s nothing to move on from. I feel like this organization has made every wrong decision possible since Cousins left and signing Kyler is just another rung on the ladder.
I feel like all this recent hype is going to come to an abrupt halt week 1 at US Bank. My expectations and anticipation are about as low as possible.
Hopefully I’m wrong

Well, that's spoken like a long time Viking's fan. I get it. Folded arms and a frown until proven otherwise. I don't begrudge anyone their state of mind as a long time supporter of this team. But this is hype season, it comes every single year. We'll see if K1 can get some old heads to pop up out of their gopher holes or not. 👍

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